6 Oct.1863: Civil marriage cert.Nr.0, Venlo, date 6 Oct.1863 (genlias.nl/) : groom Johan Antoon Kramer, birth 23 May 1831 Venlo, son of: Jan Andries Kramer, Maria Opheijter; bride Elisabeth Hubertina Schmitz, birth in Venlo, daughter of: Willem Schmitz, Wilhelmina Seetsen. //

6-7 Jan.1878: Deathcert.Nr.4, Venlo, cert.date 7 Jan.1878 (genlias.nl/) : deceased man, Johan Antoon Kramer, death 6 Jan.1878 Venlo, age 46, father Jan Andries Kramer, mother Maria Opheij. / The deceased is married to: Elisabeth Hubertina Schmitz. //