28 Nov.1823, Venlo, prov.L., civilmarriage nr.0, date 28 Nov.1823 (genlias.nl/) :
groom Jan Andries Kramer, date of birth 8 Jul.1796, place of birth Deventer, son of: Gillis Kramer, Maria Petronella Berg; bride Maria Ophey, place of birth Venlo, daughter of: Willem Ophey, Elisabeth Vervoort.
Information legalization of three children (see civilmarriagecertificate): Nadere informatie: Bij Huwelijk drie kinderen gewettigd zie deze akte. //

11 Feb.1862, Venlo, civilmarriage cert.Nr.0, date 11 Feb.1862 (source genlias.nl/) :
groom Johan Achilis Kramer, date of birth 18 Oct.1826, place of birth Venlo,
son of: Johan Andries Kramer, Maria Opheij;
bride Johanna Catharina Elias, place of birth Venlo,
daughter of: Gerard Elias, Johanna Commis.
Information child legitimization date civilmarriage 11 Feb.1862: son, Antoon Elias, born 28 May 1859 in Venlo: “Wettiging: Antoon Elias, geboren 28-05-1859 te Venlo.” (= surname Elias 11 Feb.1862 Kramer.) //